New Round of Harry Potter?

[jeremyp4]

Does anyone out there think that we may not have seen the end of the Harry Potter Lego sets? I know that the license wasn't renewed but is it possible that this might be something that is reestablished on down the road? I personally would love to see this theme extended. There are so many very cool build options, especially if they decided to create a few UCS models/builds like Star Wars did.

I hope that HP makes another appearance before too long.

What do you all think?

[lego the hutt]

It's a nice thought but doubtful unless more movies come out. Maybe if there is an animated version or something that could lend to the theme being renewed.

Most of the licensed themes seem to have the most selling power when they are based around a movie or show. There is always still the possibility, so don't give up hope, but themes like PotC, Cars, Prince of Persia and Harry Potter seem to drop off after the movie hype has died down.

[Buttmunch]

And then there is Star Wars. They could in theory keep it going, but I do think most of the demand is gone by now.

[jeremyp4]

Yeah...I think you are both right. It's a shame really that they never really offered any higher-end options. Diagon Alley is nice but it just seems a shame to not expound on the idea. I bet there would be a lot of demand for it.

[Deathleech]

Lego Harry Potter had a couple high end options from what I remember. Diagon Alley and Hogwart's Castle most recently.

Sure they don't have several $200+ sets like the Lego Star Wars theme offers, but that's to be expected. The high end items don't really have the same appeal as a 20 or 30 dollar Lego set. I mean most Lego items are geared towards kids and I don't know many 8-14 year olds running around with 200 bucks to blow on a single Lego set. Instead those uber expensive sets are geared towards adults/collectors, and asking even them to plunk down 200 dollars or more on a single set can be a really hard sell. Only the most dedicated of fans usually get those sets.

[jeremyp4]

Lego Harry Potter had a couple high end options from what I remember. Diagon Alley and Hogwart's Castle most recently.

Sure they don't have several $200+ sets like the Lego Star Wars theme offers, but that's to be expected. The high end items don't really have the same appeal as a 20 or 30 dollar Lego set. I mean most Lego items are geared towards kids and I don't know many 8-14 year olds running around with 200 bucks to blow on a single Lego set. Instead those uber expensive sets are geared towards adults/collectors, and asking even them to plunk down 200 dollars or more on a single set can be a really hard sell. Only the most dedicated of fans usually get those sets.

All very true. I just thought it would be cool to have the option. Maybe the Lord of the Rings line will have some bigger set options.

[LegoFanTexas]

Every "option" is one less set they can make elsewhere.

It costs time and money t make "options".

[brickarmor]

"Currently, the overall box office revenue generated by the Star Wars films has totaled at $4.49 billion,[1] making it the third-highest-grossing film series,[2] behind only the Harry Potter and James Bond films."

Straight from Wikipedia. Quite startling to me to find that out, my assumption--reinforced by many "meh" reactions to the HP line--being that nothing could ever trump SW, no way no how.

[sadowsk1]

"Currently, the overall box office revenue generated by the Star Wars films has totaled at $4.49 billion,[1] making it the third-highest-grossing film series,[2] behind only the Harry Potter and James Bond films."

Straight from Wikipedia. Quite startling to me to find that out, my assumption--reinforced by many "meh" reactions to the HP line--being that nothing could ever trump SW, no way no how.

Does the box office revenue count for inflation? It always frustrates me to see how movies are gauged by that instead of ticket sale quantity and popularity. I understand that in the end it's money that matters to the bottom line, but that shouldn't be the only measure.

[lego the hutt]

"Currently, the overall box office revenue generated by the Star Wars films has totaled at $4.49 billion,[1] making it the third-highest-grossing film series,[2] behind only the Harry Potter and James Bond films."

Straight from Wikipedia. Quite startling to me to find that out, my assumption--reinforced by many "meh" reactions to the HP line--being that nothing could ever trump SW, no way no how.

Does the box office revenue count for inflation? It always frustrates me to see how movies are gauged by that instead of ticket sale quantity and popularity. I understand that in the end it's money that matters to the bottom line, but that shouldn't be the only measure.

This is a logical line of thought and the answer is obviously no. Without looking at specific numbers I think everyone understands if inflation was taken into account star wars would out gross harry potter. That is taking into account re-releases with added scenes, enhanced thx sound and effects etc. The longevity of Star Wars makes it not even close.

At first glance I am surprised that james bond is there at number 1. But when you take into account the quantity of movies there have been...including recent films, which are a majority of that gross income, it makes sense. 23...there have been 23 bond movies.

Here is a link to the wiki films that are the highest grossing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hi ... sing_films

Harry Potter part 2 is number 4. I am very surprised to see the phantom menace at #10.

A direct quote from that wiki page :

The films on this chart have all had a theatrical run since 1993, and films that were released before then do not appear in the chart due to ticket-price inflation, population size and ticket purchasing trends not being considered

^ that being said star wars is the only movie from the 70's in the top 50. ET is the only movie from the 80s.

I thought it was humorous that star wars came out in 1977 and it still grossed more than any of the twilight movies...without including inflation

[Deathleech]

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjust ... 012&p=.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That list shows most of the movies with adjustments for inflation. I remember hearing how Gone with the Wind would easily trump all movies if it woulda been released now instead of in 1939. I guess that's true!

Also, here are the ticket sales:
http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjust ... r=1&p=.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[lego the hutt]

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjust ... 012&p=.htm

That list shows most of the movies with adjustments for inflation. I remember hearing how Gone with the Wind would easily trump all movies if it woulda been released now instead of in 1939. I guess that's true!

Also, here are the ticket sales:
http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjust ... r=1&p=.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting. Thanks for posting that. It would be interesting to see numbers from a certain period of time. Like the first week after release. Older films with multiple releases have an advantage in that list. I wasn't around when gone with the wind was released, but I'm guessing the lack of TV might have given it a boost. Though there aren't any other older films on there so maybe not.

I was very young when star wars was released, but I remember seeing short TV segments where they discussed the star wars craze and would ask people "How many times have you seen Star Wars?" The answer would generally be from a few to 20+. It makes me wonder how it was when Gone with the Wind was released. I'm guessing it appealed to a wider audience and more people saw it while star wars relied on multiple views per person.

Anyway, thanks for that link.

[hatcher]

Also, don't forget there was no television when Gone With the Wind Came out. TV really laid a beating down on movie ticket sales.

[sadowsk1]

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjust ... 012&p=.htm

That list shows most of the movies with adjustments for inflation. I remember hearing how Gone with the Wind would easily trump all movies if it woulda been released now instead of in 1939. I guess that's true!

Also, here are the ticket sales:
http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjust ... r=1&p=.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for the post! I don't mind that Star Wars isn't number one, I'm glad to see a lot of the classics on the list instead of whatever is popular these days.

[jeremyp4]

Every "option" is one less set they can make elsewhere.

It costs time and money t make "options".

True...it does take time and money to make "options"...but if you choose the right "option" the time and money invested can turn into huge profits. If you look at the fanbase of SW, HP, or LOTR...it probably wouldn't matter what the set would be...there would be tons of fans waiting to buy it

[jeremyp4]

I have a feeling a UCS set would do very very well.

[Deathleech]

I wasn't around when gone with the wind was released, but I'm guessing the lack of TV might have given it a boost. Though there aren't any other older films on there so maybe not.

Who knows, if nothing else I am sure it helped. Something to keep in mind is back then there were roughly only 2.3 billion people in the world compared to the 7 billion now. That's over 3x as many!

Also looking at the list w/inflation, a little over 60 of the 200 movies on there were released in the last 12 years. Granted there are some older movies on there, one even from 1921, but if you look from 1921-1989 that makes up 99 of the movies, and the rest were released in 1990-2012 which makes up the other 101. That's a little under 70 years vs only 20.

[peanut]

Does anyone out there think that we may not have seen the end of the Harry Potter Lego sets? ... I hope that HP makes another appearance before too long. ... What do you all think?

I really wish they would but I guess it depends on how well it still sells. Lucas is the long time reigning emperor of merchandising so that's not really a good comparison. I do hope they surprise us someday though!

[jeremyp4]

Does anyone out there think that we may not have seen the end of the Harry Potter Lego sets? ... I hope that HP makes another appearance before too long. ... What do you all think?

I really wish they would but I guess it depends on how well it still sells. Lucas is the long time reigning emperor of merchandising so that's not really a good comparison. I do hope they surprise us someday though!

Glad to see that someone else feels the same way. There are so many awesome possibilities that would make some great sets I think